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#51 Re: Product Discussion » Motor Noise Problem » 2016-11-22 15:53:07

Hi kwangmin kwon,

   Of about 2000 ProView S3 we shipped, we see about 3% users have problem needing assistance. Those that could provide a video showing how they used the gimbal, we usually could quickly spot the cause and help them resolve the issue quickly.

   Regarding to your video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRgG9aemEE, without another video showing how you hold the gimbal, we are unable to know if it's usage issue or gimbal issue. We need this left hand side video showing how the gimbal is maneuvered, http://bit.ly/2fe6EBU; the right hand side video does help to see small vibrations.

   The portrait mode is designed to stabilizes in a smaller angle range than the landscape mode.

#52 Re: Product Discussion » vibration and shaking proview » 2016-11-22 15:27:01

Hi kang kyungjung,

No need to try those strange maneuvers that no ones uses in real video shooting situations. The maneuver you try to do, $299 DJI Osmo won't hold, neither does ProView S3.

If could do (4:42 ~ 5:15) mentioned in FAQ #1, then you'll be able to shoot great looking videos: http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=37 .

#53 Re: Product Discussion » I follow all the steps and the gimbal trembles nothing but move it » 2016-11-22 15:24:12

Hi speed_dragon,

No need to try those strange maneuvers that no ones uses in real video shooting situations. The maneuver you try to do, $299 DJI Osmo won't hold, neither does ProView S3.

If could do (4:42 ~ 5:15) mentioned in FAQ #1, then you'll be able to shoot great looking videos: http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=37 .

#55 Re: Product Discussion » Portrait rubber blocks gimbal from rotating » 2016-11-21 10:54:12

It's purely mechanical friction. Don't think software update has anything to do with it.

#56 Re: Product Discussion » Some very big motor noises and vibrations » 2016-11-18 23:50:54

Hi Taolin,

To allow us determine if it's usage issue or gimbal problem, can you help make a video using another phone according to below steps to show how the gimbal is used?

1. Start from powered off state
2. Do pairing phone tuning
3. When done, continue do the maneuver that you say it vibrates even during minimal amounts of rotation. Turn on video recording of the phone on the gimbal at this stage, to better see small vibrations.

Two videos something similar to this would help: https://drive.google.com/file/d/0BwBD1W … sp=sharing

Thank you.

#57 Re: Product Discussion » Initial 4 configuration steps not completing » 2016-11-18 23:27:32

Please remove the rubber cap and see if this fix the problem.


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#58 Re: Product Discussion » Few questions to understand the gimbal better » 2016-11-18 22:45:27

A1: No faster way to center, only to use joystick to move the pointing direction.

A2: For some phone, if after Phone Pairing there is still some gimbal vibration, Optional Tuning, doing the same gimbal maneuver couple times where it vibrated before, it will try to remove the vibration.

A3: The weight entered for Phone Pairing is the total weight of the phone, including accessories. If adding case, enter total weight of the phone and case, and do Phone Pairing again.

A4: Slight variation in weight no problem for the Phone Pairing process. Usually could Google search for the product, find the listed weight, add the numbers.

A5: By balancing the phone we mean that finding a position for the phone, fitted in the phone grip, such that however it is rotated in roll angle direction it’ll hold the angular position while gimbal is powered off. So for different phones the distance from the tilt motor will vary. If not balanced, battery power is wasted just to hold it level, and there is less motor torque to counter-act rotational disturbance to hold the phone steady.

A6: If power saving is ON, there is less power applied to motor (less torque) when gimbal is standing still. If there is sudden large jerk, gimbal might temporarily lose lock. If power saving is OFF, more power is applied to motor (more torque) when gimbal is standing still, and it can better counter-act sudden large jerk.

A7: After the 1st time, sensor calibration is only needed when finding phone not level after powering up, assuming phone is properly placed in the phone grip.

A8: The rubber cap is totally not needed for normal landscape shooting mode.

#59 Re: Product Discussion » noise and vibration » 2016-11-17 22:58:42

Regarding gimbal vibration, please see FAQ Q1/A1: http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=37  The vibration in your video is caused by holding gimbal near 45 degree, outside its intended upright, horizontal, or inverted holding modes.

Under normal usage scenarios, user won’t intentionally shake the gimbal, and the motor humming should be barely noticeable in audio recording.

We are still studying if there can be way to further improve the humming for intentional shake of the gimbal.

#61 Re: Product Discussion » i have a problem with galaxy s7 » 2016-11-17 02:05:24

Please remove the rubber used for portrait shooting mode and see if it fix the issue.
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#62 Re: Product Discussion » Severe noise and vibration at certain angles. » 2016-11-16 08:27:50

I'm unable to see too clearly your holding position of the gimbal. If around 45 or 135 degrees, indeed it could vibrate. Please see FAQ Q1/A1, http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=37

#63 Re: Product Discussion » Should full lock keep pointed at the same subject? Also Selfie mode » 2016-11-16 08:22:05

In case speaking of this, http://navincorp.weebly.com/blog/stretch-goal-perk-1, it was intended as an additional $30 perk to offer GPS tracking feature camera App and a stand if the crowdfunding campaign could reach $600,000  Since we only met basic $300,000 funding goal, we don't have funding to hire engineers to develop the needed camera App.

As currently other $300+ gimbals on the market has face tracking camera App feature, we could only try to find if there are suitable camera App companies to cooperate with to later come out with something similar. It's not an easy process, but we are keeping this in mind.

#64 Re: Product Discussion » Controllng REC » 2016-11-16 08:08:01

With Controlling REC enabled, the gimbal bluetooth is in a different mode, App interaction with the gimbal becomes much much slower than when Controlling REC is disabled. If could provide a video of how you are stepping through the setup sequence, we might be able to help spot if some steps not done as expected, resulting in difficulty getting it to work. Otherwise it's a nice to have feature but not mandatory for use, as the camera App video recording on/off can be controlled by touch of a finger.

#65 Re: Product Discussion » Portrait rubber blocks gimbal from rotating » 2016-11-16 07:48:00

Please simply safe keep the rubber somewhere when using the gimbal for normal landscape mode video shooting.

#66 Re: Product Discussion » Should full lock keep pointed at the same subject? Also Selfie mode » 2016-11-15 11:04:29

Full lock mode only points in a fixed direction. It doesn't point to a same target.

#67 Re: Product Discussion » Some very big motor noises and vibrations » 2016-11-15 10:54:28

Hi Taolin,

Which phone are you using?

If not flushing the setting, the Optional Tuning effect is accumulative for different mode maneuvers. 

Not sure if this is related to your case: if the phone is not fully pushed back against the holder leaving no gap, it'll have noise problem. Can click below figure to zoom.

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Hi kwangmin kwon,

> http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=10

The noise in the video provided in your last message seems more like sound of the slipper you wear, rather than the gimbal noise. Please see if can provide a video as 5th paragraph of Usage Notice describes, to allow us better understanding of your problem. http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4


Hi herbtea,

Please see if can provide a video as 5th paragraph of Usage Notice describes, to allow us better understanding of your problem. http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4

#68 Re: Product Discussion » Phone TILTED down on the LEFT side even after pairing » 2016-11-15 10:31:45

Weight of Galaxy Note 5 is 171 gram, should select 171 gram for phone's weight, and "With" balance weight since it's needed to balance.

Regarding titled to left, please see FAQ Q2/A2: http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … .php?id=37

#69 Re: Product Discussion » Not Pairing with iPhone » 2016-11-15 10:25:35

Hi kwkistler,

   We have iPhone 7 PLUS, and other customers that have iPhone 7 PLUS didn't seem to have issue. Not sure what caused problem in your case. Please see if can provide a video as 5th paragraph of the Usage Notice describes, to allow us better understanding of your problem.
http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4

#71 Product Discussion » ProView S3 Frequently Asked Questions » 2016-11-12 23:07:10

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Replies: 4

Q1: I've done the 4 required setup steps mentioned in ProView S3 Usage Guideline, yet when using the gimbal to shoot video in various holding positions, it sometimes vibrates or goes crazy.

A1: Please go over 3rd paragraph of ProView S3 Usage Notice, http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4.

      To change gimbal holding positions, first return gimbal to near 0 degree pan angle, then fall forward or rise forward to change holding position as (4:42 ~5:15) https://vimeo.com/187616355 shows. Then one would be able to make shots like this without issues : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaqm2gydQk


Q2: I’ve done the 4 required steps, yet the phone still cannot level after turning on, and the video recorded is slanted.

A2: (a) When doing sensor calibration, use 3 fingers to press down from top of the grip, assert a little force, to let bottom surface the grip touching flatly on the table. Do this for both sides. https://vimeo.com/187616355 (1:47 ~ 3:15) 

      (b) When mounting the phone, tilt the phone upward from the far end to make the phone parallel to the phone grip. The calibration procedure calibrates the sensor inside body of the phone grip; if the phone is mounted slanted, the recorded video will be slanted. https://vimeo.com/187616355 (5:27 ~ 5:35)


Q3: I’ve followed “ProView S3 Joystick Controlled Video Recording Tutorial (iPhone version)”, yet still cannot control video recording on/off of the camera App.

A3: (a) if Controlling REC is already enabled from the App, from iPhone’s Settings App Bluetooth control, first tap the (i) icon of the connected ProView S3 and select “Forget This Device”, then select ProView S3 from “Other Devices” to pair. If successful, clicking joystick should bring up a ringer icon, and camera App video recording on/off can be controlled. If unsuccessful, usually repeating previous step once or twice should get it working; if not, can turn off gimbal, turn off iPhone’s Bluetooth, then turn on iPhone’s Bluetooth, turn on gimbal and repeat (a) again.
      (b) If it still does not work, please take Q&A 7 as references.

Q4: How many phones can ProView S3 pair with?

A4: After pairing with a phone (#1), the gimbal parameters to work optimally with the phone are saved to both the gimbal and the App. Later when turning on gimbal to shoot video, there is no need to run the App. When another phone (#2) of different model is to be used, Pairing Phone process needs to be done again. The new parameters to work optimally with #2 phone are again saved to gimbal and the App. Afterwards the gimbal will work with phone #2 without needing to run the App. Later if wanting to use phone #1 with the gimbal, only need to run the App on phone #1 to connect with the gimbal, once Bluetooth connection is made, previously stored gimbal parameters on the App is loaded to the gimbal; and user can immediately run camera App to shoot video. So there is no limit on how many phones can pair with ProView S3.


Q5: I have problem connecting the App to the gimbal. What can I do?

A5: Please try below steps:
a. From phone's Bluetooth control, unpair the already paired ProView S3 device
b. Turn off Phone Bluetooth, remove ProView S3 App process, turn off gimbal,
c. Turn on phone’s Bluetooth
d. Turn on gimbal
e. Press Scan to refresh Bluetooth devices list (skip this in iOS)
f. If you see ProView S3 is in Bluetooth list, press it so that the phone gets paired with gimbal
g. Launch ProView S3 app, then you should be able connect with gimbal


Q6: Other ProView S3 user’s video didn’t seem to have motor humming sound. When I test mine, there is motor humming sound. What should I do?

A6: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeJllDpeNWc
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DVt8H2FOPaQ

First of all, make sure Phone Pairing has been performed before, and phone is balanced prior to powering on to use the gimbal.

When using the gimbal, to have good cinematic result, generally it relies on turning of the body to change camera direction, not by rotating the arm. Try using gimbal the way it’s shown in the above video, holding it upright with the object to record in the front, turn your body to change camera shooting angle. See if motor sound will still be recorded using it this way.

ProView S3 supports mainly upright (0 degree), horizontal (90 degree), and inverted (180 degrees) holding positions and it’ll stabilize within a range of rotation angle. Intentionally holding it at 45 or 135 degrees, outside its intended range, it might vibrate and have noise.

Everyone like to rotate and swing the gimbal upon first use to see how well it stabilize. It could have motor humming sound with such intentional rotation and swings. If using the gimbal in the conventional way described above, then there should not be motor sound issues.

Q7: I enabled the "controlling REC"  function of ProView S3 from the app, and I still have the following situations, what should I do?
(1) I see ProView S3 in Bluetooth device list, but I cannot PAIR it with my phone.
(2) I see ProView S3 in Bluetooth device list and I can pair it with my phone, but I cannot CONNECT it with my phone.

A7: Follow the document https://goo.gl/3Um9aY to update the Bluetooth module of ProView S3.  This is one-time operation; you do not need to to it multiple times.
      Remarks: Only Android app is available for now.  If you are using a iPhone, please borrow an Android to update the Bluetooth module.


Q8: I cannot screw the balance weight into the hole. It does not fit. What to do?

A8: For some customers the balance weight screw may have been coated with thicker varnish coating, causing this difficult to fit problem. By making the screw perpendicular to the hole, apply some force pushing into the hole, and turning the balance weight at the same time, one can gradually screw the balance weight into the hole. Make sure the screw is perpendicular to the hole while turning the balance weight. Once you screw it fully into the hole once, later removing it, it’ll be easy to fit the balance weight afterwards.

#72 Re: Product Discussion » Strange behaviour taking videos » 2016-11-12 22:38:50

Hi alemux,

If you have done the required 4 steps mentioned in ProView S3 Usage Notice, then simply take note of Usage Notice 3rd paragraph and Quick Start Tutorial for iPhone (4:42 ~5:15).

Mainly, hold gimbal in upright (0 degree), horizontal (90 degree), and inverted (180 degrees) positions when you use it and it’ll stabilize within a range of rotation angle. To change gimbal holding positions, make the change near 0 degree pan angle as (4:42 ~5:15)  https://vimeo.com/187616355 shows. Then you would be able to make shots like this without abnormal gimbal behavior : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doaqm2gydQk

        ProView S3 Usage Notice: http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4 (3rd paragraph)

        Tutorial: https://vimeo.com/187616355  (4:42 ~5:15)

If still having problem, please follow Usage Notice 5th paragraph guideline on reporting issues; without video, it's impossible for us to know what customer did causing usage issues simply from word descriptions.

#73 Re: Product Discussion » Additional batteries? » 2016-11-12 22:24:51

Hi George 4,

It lists some absurd dimension numbers. You'll need to double check with the seller.

Battery type to use: 18350, button top, no protection, similar dimension as ones used for ProView S3.

Batteries from different vendors may have varying quality, we didn't test others on the market, so we are unable to make recommendations.

#74 Re: Product Discussion » Some very big motor noises and vibrations » 2016-11-12 22:17:11

You might have missed the ProView S3 Usage Notice that we urged customers to checkout in our FedEx tracking number notice email.

http://www.servicenavin.com/proviews3_f … c.php?id=4

If you have done all 4 required steps without problem, then there is the Option Tuning tutorial video that you can follow to try tune out the noise.

Also note that all lock mode is rarely used, try use pan-follow mode which is used in 99% of situations.

#75 Re: Product Discussion » Levelling changes while panning » 2016-11-10 22:50:04

Hi AnCa,

Yes the settings are saved to Flash memory inside the gimbal, will be remembered after power off.

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